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Teachers paid to sub while on prep time

Feb. 16, 2012 | 3 comments

Members of the Weyauwega-Fremont School Board disagree about whether instructors who are asked to substitute teach during their prep time should be paid for it.

During the board’s Feb. 13 Committee of the Whole meeting, it voted 3-2 to continue paying teachers the current rate of $15 per hour when they are asked to sub in such situations.

Doug Ehrenberg, Sandy Smith and Jim Stuebs voted yes, while Dan Kohl and Neal Loehrke voted no. Tony Beyer and Randy Yorkson were absent.

The topic was part of the board’s discussion about the Professional Staff Employee Handbook, which will cover teachers, guidance counselors and school psychologists.

Each month, the board reviews a particular section of the proposed handbook.

A decision on the subject of pay for teachers asked to sub during their prep time had been tabled last month by the board.

Ehrenberg said there are cases in other professions where people receive additional pay for work done outside of their normal duties.

He cited his own profession as a funeral director.

On call 24/7, Ehrenberg is paid a salary but said if a veteran at the Wisconsin Veterans Home dies and a funeral home in Florida wants the veteran sent to Florida, he receives additional pay to pick up the body, embalm it and drive it to an airport.

Matt Wilbert is W-F’s middle and high school principal and a former teacher. He said if a teacher is asked to sub during a prep time, that means the teacher will have to make up that 45 minutes of prep at another time.

Classes are 45 minutes in length, and Wilbert said teachers use prep time to plan lessons, correct the work of students and contact parents.

If they sub during that time, many will do their prep work after they are done coaching at the school and when they are home.

Loehrke, who is the board’s president, said that since the board’s January meeting, he had talked to constituents about the subject. People were "flabbergasted," he said, when he told them that when teachers were asked to sub during their prep time, they were paid a sub rate.

Smith, who is a former teacher and principal, asked him if he explained that the teachers were giving up prep time.

"If they’re losing 45 minutes of prep time, they have to make it up somewhere else," she said. "Personally, I don’t know any teacher who would rather have the $15 than the prep time."

District Administrator Scott Bleck said the approximate cost to the district of paying teachers to sub during that time is $3,500.

After the meeting, he said that since a class period is 45 minutes, teachers are paid less than $15 when they sub during their prep time. It would amount to $11.25.

After a motion was brought forward to continue paying teachers in these situations, Loehrke said he would rather wait until all seven members of the board were present to make a decision.

Stuebs then noted that he was not present when the board voted to offer chocolate milk as a daily milk choice for all students in the district.

Loehrke then made a secondary motion to postpone a vote on the matter for two weeks.

"I think this is a hot enough topic that we should have all seven board members there," he said.

The vote on his motion failed, after he and Kohl voted to postpoine action, while Ehrenberg, Smith and Stuebs voted not to.

3 Comments for "Teachers paid to sub while on prep time"

  1. [quote]He cited his own profession as a funeral director.[/quote]
    Nobody - and I mean nobody - should base pay policies on how funeral directors pay themselves. Do a Google search for "funeral" and "rip off" - you get 7.5MILLION hits.

    [quote]On call 24/7, Ehrenberg is paid a salary but said if a veteran at the Wisconsin Veterans Home dies and a funeral home in Florida wants the veteran sent to Florida, he receives additional pay to pick up the body, embalm it and drive it to an airport.[/quote]
    You're going to charge the veteran's family an EXTRA $13,000 for this service, so why not pay yourself more?

    Furthermore, if you are paid for off-hour services - then you do not receive a salary. Salary means you work extra hours for free.

    By the way, using a dead veteran, as an example to chisel more money for your services, was a bad move.

    [quote]Stuebs then noted that he was not present when the board voted to offer chocolate milk as a daily milk choice for all students in the district.[/quote]
    I can never hear enough about voting on chocolate milk.

    lastpercentile Feb 16, 2012 3:08 PM

  2. So let's see if this plan will work. When I go into work Fri & I'm asked to work on a machine other than mine; I'm going to demand I get an extra $15.00/hour. That would be on top of the wage I already earn. I'm guessing I'd be shown to the door with a pink slip.

    The taxpayers in this district should be outraged. The teachers are being paid a salary. Now on top of that salary; 3 members of the school board are willing to give them an hourly wage also??? They should be recalled!!! :)
    When will some of these board members realize schools are NOT employment agencies? And when will admistration learn to actually be the boss. This was recommended by the administration? Why is the employee always calling the shots?

    The reasoning of Ehrenberg & the chocolate milk justification of Stuebs is apples to oranges. Do these men have any clue what the wages/benefits this district pays out? Any clue? Any one? Any one? :P

    JustBecause Feb 16, 2012 9:38 PM

  3. It's impossible to tell from the article whether these teachers are being paid for "prep time" - but let's presume that these teachers are already "on the clock" when they are asked to teach a class instead of "prepping".

    You can't pay an employee for doing 2 jobs at the same time. When you're talking about civil servants - I'm fairly confident that you're violating a law.

    Paying a full-time teacher the "sub" rate is probably violating the teacher's rights as an employee; unless the "sub" rate is identical to his/her standard compensation rate. Otherwise, you're directing an employee to clock out - so you can re-hire him/her as a "temp" at the temp rate.

    If prep time is mandatory (also not clear in the article), and additional teaching duties require the teacher to work beyond his/her normal work schedule, then overtime rules should kick in.

    I think the board should consult a labor attorney before any more of this "double-dipping" and/or overtime violations continue.

    lastpercentile Feb 16, 2012 9:53 PM

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